Here’s a couple parts of a reader comment:
Why are you so convinced that Iranian nuclear capability makes the region less stable, or makes them more of a threat to U.S. interests?
If you’d like to argue that their leaders are so irrational that they’re willing to turn their country into a giant suicide bomb, by all means, make the argument, but there aren’t clear historical or contemporary parallels. Leaders that have ascended to power usually have done so for reasons that are antithetical to the suicidal tendencies you’ve ascribed them.
For one thing, there has been virtually no real chance for such parallels. Muslim countries have only hated us for half a century, and have only had nuclear capabilities or the potential for them for a few short years. And the only ones that do are ostensible allies of ours.
One might also argue that funding terrorist attacks on the United States would seem to be a similar suicidal tendency, and Iran has been doing it for many years. The same with the Taliban refusing to turn over Bin Laden when we clearly issued them an ultimatum. The same with Hussein balking when it became clear that anything less than total submission to weapons inspections would be his death. Government officials risking their livelihood is not at all unprecedented, and I’m only looking at the last 5 or 6 years.
Moreover, they refer to us as “paper tigers”, almost rightfully so. They’ve funded terrorists who’ve bombed embassies, ships, even the World Trade Center (years before they finally leveled it), and taken Americans hostage with virtually no retaliation. Osama Bin Laden is still unaccounted for. The Taliban is alive and well and working their way back into the Afghanistan. Hezbollah is doing better than ever. We’re still, even to this day, ridiculously reluctant to do anything about terrorism. So maybe they don’t see it as a suicide mission. I might not if I were them.
Also, you can’t underestimate their hatred of us. Iranian leaders refer to America as “The Great Satan.” They are in striking range of Israel, who they say must be “wiped off the map”. Their leaders deny the holocaust, which surely they, unlike the general Iranian population, must have all of the evidence for. I find it totally rational for the average Iranian to believe that the holocaust is a myth, as I’m sure that their history books make a very convincing case to that effect. They don’t have Wikipedia and The History Channel to set them straight. But the fact that those at the highest level of the government, who surely must have A&E, continue to hold Holocaust-denial conventions, means that they are either irrational (as we would define it) or, more likely, totally malicious.
Also, what is rational varies depending on what part of the world you live in. They ascribe to a religion in which martyrdom is highly rewarded. Suicide, to them, is a good thing, which makes it not irrational. Great Britain giving nukes to Al Qaeda would be irrational. But for Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who firmly believes that he and every Iranian who dies in a retaliatory strike will be rewarded with an eternity of 72 virgins, doing so would be totally rational. 72? Hell, I’d do it for 3.
I think North Korea is a useful guide in this case. They immediately issued a “no first use†nuclear policy, and hopped back onto the bargaining table, with much more leverage, and with U.S. governmental assurances against an invasion of any sort. If you view Iran’s actions as being at least minimally rational, I don’t think you’ve got nearly as much to worry about as you seem to.
I disagree about North Korea being a good comparison. They’re mainly Buddhist and Confucianist, neither of which believes in a God who wants nothing more than to wipe Israel and all of its supporters off of the map, and neither of which would therefore believe in eternal rewards for doing so. They don’t have a history of funding terrorist attacks on American targets. They’re an entirely different nation working from an entirely different worldview, and I’ve never considered the idea of going to war with them a good one. They’re a problem that almost certainly can be solved diplomatically, and even if not we aren’t far enough along to know for sure yet.
My view of Iran’s actions is totally rational given their religious beliefs and apparent hatred of Israel and the U.S. Of course those religious beliefs are, in and of themselves, definitely irrational (though their hatred of Israel and us is not) but then many Americans believe equally irrational things and act on them all of the time. We believe that one guy parted the Red Sea, another guy somehow fit millions of animals plus food on a houseboat for 40 days, and a third guy turned water into wine and rose from the dead. Those beliefs lead us to do stupid and often violent things like deny gay people basic human rights or try to get certain virtually proven scientific principles removed from science classes in favor of theories that are downright laughable. I don’t see a large rational difference between Christians bombing abortion clinics and Muslims dirty bombing Las Vegas.
From another reader:
Not all Iranians hate America. Those that have a grudge do so because of the dangerous and murderous foreign policy the U.S. Government has been shoving down the throat of the world for the last two centuries.
A better plan: Drastically change U.S. foreign policy. Quit acting like meddling bullies and I bet people will quit trying to blow us up.
A large portion of the blame for 9/11 and all other terrorist attacks against America belongs to a hubristic, corrupt, and imperialistic US foreign policy… and of course to the crooks who so recklessly acted in our name.
I agree that we should do that too, but that’s a 20 year solution to a 3 year problem. It’s not fast enough. We clearly have to drastically alter our foreign policy, but that won’t help us with Iran’s nukes.
I have no idea what the average Iranian thinks, and I really don’t care. I don’t buy into that politically correct “Islam is a peaceful religion” bullshit, though at the same time I have no doubt that many Muslims are peaceful. Either way, the opinions of the average Iranian don’t matter right now. All that matters is what their leaders are planning, and that seems pretty clear.
Regardless of why we are in this situation we have to deal with it. We can’t just let them detonate a nuclear weapon in Chicago because Reagan (who I believe to be possibly the worst President in history) made a bunch of mistakes. I’m not usually an alarmist at all, but if we allow Iran to make weapons grade uranium I believe the result will be a nightmare and any hope of fixing the mistakes of our past and mending fences with that region will be gone.
And from another:
I think that Iraq is probably the main reason we’re not at war with Iran right now. You’re right, Iran is an infintely more imminent threat to us than Iraq ever was, but the problem is that the administration would have to literally make the exact same case for war that they used with Iraq. It will be very, very tough for them to “sell†this new war to everybody.
Well, that’s certainly been the worst effect yet of the war with Iraq. We’ve been effectively hamstrung as far as dealing with terrorism is concerned.
I think Iran is a far superior case to the one in Iraq. We know they’re working on nuclear capability, they’ve admitted it. Many Americans believed Iraq was not. We know they’re connected to Al-Qaeda, and the assertion that Iraq was was laughable even back then. Iraq had no known history of terrorizing American targets, Iran does. The two are largely polar opposites.
I think that aerial strikes in Iran, with no ground involvement, wouldn’t be too hard to sell for that reason. Nobody wants another quagmire for sure, but I think most Americans agree that Iran having nuclear technology is clearly a very, very bad thing.
Also I amend my plan of attack. One other condition of our ceasing the bombing should be unfiltered internet access for all Iranians. I really think that the best way to change the hearts and minds of any populace is to increase their access to information. I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the evils in the world could be eradicated by messageboards. It would take only a few weeks for Iranians to realize that we Americans aren’t evil. We’re just stupid.